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Why are Ahmeddiyas considered non muslims?

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Nimmy


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Answer
Because,
Let us now examine Mirzaâs writings in order to make an objective assessment.
(Translated from his original Urdu)
We curse anyone making a claim of prophethood.(Advertisement dated 20 Shaâban, 1314 AH) But soon he is found claiming:In the Word of God I have been named Muhammad and a Messenger. (RoohaniKhazain 18/207) I am Adam, I am Noah, I am David, I am Messiah son of Mary, I am Muhammad.(Roohani Khazain 22/521) I am Rama, I am Buddha and I am Krishna. I am the âpromised oneâ of all religions. (Ref same) [Zahooruddin Akmal, a disciple, hurls this insult:Muhammad has descended among us again,And in his glory he is loftier than before!]
âAayilâ came to me. God gave Jibrael (Gabriel) the name of Aayil because he returns to me time and again. (Haqiqat-ul-Wahi pg 103) [Aayil from âaayaâ is a derivative of âComingâ in Urdu] God gave me the tidings that I would live up to be 80 years or longer.
(Muwahib-ur-Rahman)[But Mirza died in 1908 when he would be 68-73] It is absurd that a person should receive inspiration from God in a language different from his own! (Chashma-e-Maârifat pg 209)
And then, quite an opposite verdict:
It is strange that some of the inspiration I receive is in languages quite
unknown to me, for example, English or Sanskrit or Hebrew, etc.
On 5 March 1905 I saw an angel. When asked, he said his name was Tichi Tichi!
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi pg 332) [A smile would be in order here!]
It is written in Bukhari that a voice from the sky will announce (for Ghulam Ahmed), âThis is the Khalifa of Allah, Mahdi!â Just think about it. How glorious this Hadith is! (Shahadatul Quran pg 41) [Turn page after page of all volumes of Bukhari, and you will not find this quotation anywhere!]
Look up history and it tells you that (Prophet Muhammad) was the same
orphan whose father had died a few days after his birth. (Paigham-e-Sulh pg 9) [It is common knowledge that the exalted Prophet's father Abdullah had died before his birth!] Treat this self-grown plant with special kindness and favor. (Mirza Ghulam's letter to the British Lieutenant Governor, 24 February 1898)[The request in this letter should be viewed in the context of W.W. Hunterâs and Nawab Chhatariâs revelations.]

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The state of divination overtook Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, such that he was a woman, and Allah expressly used His power of manhood. This is enough said for those who have discernment. (âIslami Qurbaniâ Tract Number 34, Qazi Yar Muhammad Qadiani) [The author of âSuboot Hazir Hainâ, M. Mateen Khalid, comments that in the entire history of mankind, not a single individual besides Mirza has ascribed this abomination to God. But there is more to it.]
Baboo Elahi Bakhsh wants to see my menstruation but Allah says you have no menstruation. There is that baby in you. (Annexure to Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, pg 581)[That baby refers to Jesus Christ]
The spirit of Jesus was infused in me like it was infused in Mary and
allegorically I was rendered pregnant. Not more than ten months had passed when I was made Jesus from Mary. That is how I became Jesus, son of Mary.(Kashti-Nooh pg 47) [Try to make sense of it.]
Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud, the son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, who became the second "caliph", writes in Al-Fazl on 5 January 1933:
About the revelation to the Promised Messiah (Ghulam Ahmed) that he would die in either Makkah or Madina, we would say that both are the names of Qadian.[The problem here is that the Mirza Saheb met his end neither in Makkah,Madina nor in Qadian, but in the Ahmadiya Building in Lahore! The contemporary critics confidently assert that he fell dead in the lavatory. Eye witnesses, the medical certificate and Mirzaâs biographies do describe his last illness as severe diarrhea or cholera.]

Allah prays, fasts, awakens, and sleeps (Al-Bushra 2/79)
I am myself God. (Aina Kamalat-e-Islam pg 564)
Three gems from a poet disciple of Mirza:
If anyone wishes to see Muhammad
One should see Ghulam Ahmed in Qadian
Muhammad has descended among us again
And loftier is he in his glory!

there is so much more .....

Why are Ahmeddiyas considered non muslims?




Nimmy


Salam and thanks to all who help me to understand this..


Answer
Because,
Let us now examine Mirzaâs writings in order to make an objective assessment.
(Translated from his original Urdu)
We curse anyone making a claim of prophethood.(Advertisement dated 20 Shaâban, 1314 AH) But soon he is found claiming:In the Word of God I have been named Muhammad and a Messenger. (RoohaniKhazain 18/207) I am Adam, I am Noah, I am David, I am Messiah son of Mary, I am Muhammad.(Roohani Khazain 22/521) I am Rama, I am Buddha and I am Krishna. I am the âpromised oneâ of all religions. (Ref same) [Zahooruddin Akmal, a disciple, hurls this insult:Muhammad has descended among us again,And in his glory he is loftier than before!]
âAayilâ came to me. God gave Jibrael (Gabriel) the name of Aayil because he returns to me time and again. (Haqiqat-ul-Wahi pg 103) [Aayil from âaayaâ is a derivative of âComingâ in Urdu] God gave me the tidings that I would live up to be 80 years or longer.
(Muwahib-ur-Rahman)[But Mirza died in 1908 when he would be 68-73] It is absurd that a person should receive inspiration from God in a language different from his own! (Chashma-e-Maârifat pg 209)
And then, quite an opposite verdict:
It is strange that some of the inspiration I receive is in languages quite
unknown to me, for example, English or Sanskrit or Hebrew, etc.
On 5 March 1905 I saw an angel. When asked, he said his name was Tichi Tichi!
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi pg 332) [A smile would be in order here!]
It is written in Bukhari that a voice from the sky will announce (for Ghulam Ahmed), âThis is the Khalifa of Allah, Mahdi!â Just think about it. How glorious this Hadith is! (Shahadatul Quran pg 41) [Turn page after page of all volumes of Bukhari, and you will not find this quotation anywhere!]
Look up history and it tells you that (Prophet Muhammad) was the same
orphan whose father had died a few days after his birth. (Paigham-e-Sulh pg 9) [It is common knowledge that the exalted Prophet's father Abdullah had died before his birth!] Treat this self-grown plant with special kindness and favor. (Mirza Ghulam's letter to the British Lieutenant Governor, 24 February 1898)[The request in this letter should be viewed in the context of W.W. Hunterâs and Nawab Chhatariâs revelations.]

NOW GET READY!
The state of divination overtook Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, such that he was a woman, and Allah expressly used His power of manhood. This is enough said for those who have discernment. (âIslami Qurbaniâ Tract Number 34, Qazi Yar Muhammad Qadiani) [The author of âSuboot Hazir Hainâ, M. Mateen Khalid, comments that in the entire history of mankind, not a single individual besides Mirza has ascribed this abomination to God. But there is more to it.]
Baboo Elahi Bakhsh wants to see my menstruation but Allah says you have no menstruation. There is that baby in you. (Annexure to Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, pg 581)[That baby refers to Jesus Christ]
The spirit of Jesus was infused in me like it was infused in Mary and
allegorically I was rendered pregnant. Not more than ten months had passed when I was made Jesus from Mary. That is how I became Jesus, son of Mary.(Kashti-Nooh pg 47) [Try to make sense of it.]
Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud, the son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, who became the second "caliph", writes in Al-Fazl on 5 January 1933:
About the revelation to the Promised Messiah (Ghulam Ahmed) that he would die in either Makkah or Madina, we would say that both are the names of Qadian.[The problem here is that the Mirza Saheb met his end neither in Makkah,Madina nor in Qadian, but in the Ahmadiya Building in Lahore! The contemporary critics confidently assert that he fell dead in the lavatory. Eye witnesses, the medical certificate and Mirzaâs biographies do describe his last illness as severe diarrhea or cholera.]

Allah prays, fasts, awakens, and sleeps (Al-Bushra 2/79)
I am myself God. (Aina Kamalat-e-Islam pg 564)
Three gems from a poet disciple of Mirza:
If anyone wishes to see Muhammad
One should see Ghulam Ahmed in Qadian
Muhammad has descended among us again
And loftier is he in his glory!

there is so much more .....




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